Listenera day ago
Here's a copy of what Winder/Watchtower claims to be the dress of 100 years ago in Update No. 3
Listener you are right, Winder is making an extreme point so by comparison his reasoning sounds moderate and legit
2024-05-may-s-147-dress and grooming-announcements and reminders!.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/4d0d5bcf.
grandpa!.
Listenera day ago
Here's a copy of what Winder/Watchtower claims to be the dress of 100 years ago in Update No. 3
Listener you are right, Winder is making an extreme point so by comparison his reasoning sounds moderate and legit
https://youtu.be/4lhk30a1fxc?si=h9baqeu8gmm7vbm0.
the cne.news has come out with an article on the developments in norway and the aftermath of the deregistration of the watchtower there only last month.
cne stands for christian news in europe and it is a christian news site for continental europe that.
Phizzy4 minutes ago
Thanks raymond ! and thanks for the link to "Updates" and the full Article. I noted two things
I really hope ECHR upholds Norway’s decision bur I would hold my breath, the ECHR has been siding with all the crazy AGENDA recently , recent example they ruled that climate change anxiety is a human right, look iit up
https://youtu.be/4lhk30a1fxc?si=h9baqeu8gmm7vbm0.
the cne.news has come out with an article on the developments in norway and the aftermath of the deregistration of the watchtower there only last month.
cne stands for christian news in europe and it is a christian news site for continental europe that.
https://youtu.be/4Lhk30a1fXc?si=H9baqEu8GMm7Vbm0
The CNE.news has come out with an article on the developments in Norway and the aftermath of the deregistration of the Watchtower there only last month. CNE stands for Christian News in Europe and it is a Christian news site for continental Europe that
Has been running since 2021 and has become one of the best-informed Christian news websites in Europe.
Here is what they had to say in a recent article titled "Jehovah’s Witnesses ease shunning rules after blow in Oslo court"
Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide have eased the discipline for youth members after “serious wrongdoing”. The new guideline came within two weeks after the decision of the Oslo District Court in Norway to strip the Jehovahs of their official status as a registered faith community. The faith community seems to be trying to get a better position in the appeal case in Norway. (=So that is why they announced changes so fast after they lost the court case, they are positioning themselves now before the appeal to the higher court in Norway or ECHR which ever court they choose, we don't know yet)
The community came under attack for its rigid rules regarding disfellowshipping “baptised minors”. Among Jehovah’s Witnesses, it is quite common for have teenagers being baptised between 12 and 16 years. (=In fact I won't be surprised if they change that soon, and come out with another change for a minimum age for baptism, because you know that had gotten to be ridiculous with some children even being baptised as young as 6 years old in some countries. That has to come to an end purely based on this loss in Norway)
Religiously, they are seen as responsible members than, who can be disciplined. There have been cases of “disfellowshiping” after “serious wrongdoing”, resulting in “shunning”, isolation and contact bans. For individuals and families, this can be rigid and feel like psychological violence.....
(...rest of the article here jwupdates.com)
the new study article 28 watchtower that has just been published on jw.org is about apostate lies and introduces new concepts in their effort to compat apostasy in the congregations.
so despite the loosening of their recent disfellowshipping rules their fight against apostates is still raging hard.
according to the foreword of this article, they will concentrate on :.
Blondie, in my 10 years here, I read so many of your answers and posts, always thoroughly researched and helped me to connect the dots on many missing pieces of my puzzle, thank you
https://youtu.be/uvdmjpmgxk8?si=qdvgimktegx4fepm.
the watchtower's nightmares have just began in france.
on april the 9th the french senate passed a new "anti-cult" law that will basically strengthen the hands of miviludes, the french agency, the official anti-cult agency that is cracking down on dangerous cults.
https://youtu.be/UvdmjpMGxK8?si=qDvGimKtEgX4FEPm
The Watchtower's nightmares have just began in France. On April the 9th the French Senate passed a new "anti-cult" law that will basically strengthen the hands of MIVILUDES, the French Agency, the official anti-cult Agency that is cracking down on dangerous cults. And guess who is their new target?
The Watchtower has been in their crosshairs for years with the Watchtower having been branded as a "sect" , a name that the Watchtower didn't like it one bit and has fought the Agency long and hard for years to reconsider. Well now with this new "anti-cult law" that the French Senate approved with 146 "yes" votes against the 104 "no's" the anti cult Agency MIVILUDES has been given new powers to go after cults that cause psychological traumas to their members. Reminds you someone you know?
The law’s name refers to “reinforcing the fight against cultic deviances.” The reason offered for a new crackdown on “cults” is that the number of reported incidents, received by the governmental anti-cult agency MIVILUDES is growing. So here really some of the main changes in the fight against cults that this new law introduces:
Note that the State Council, when examining the draft law, recommended to drop this article as dangerous for freedom of speech and “the freedom of scientific debates.”
However, the government rejected the recommendation of the State Council and kept the article. The fight in the Senate only led to the introduction of a new paragraph protecting the “whistleblowers” who reveal questionable practices of medical companies. Although this primarily applies to medical companies it has broader ramifications in the way the French goverment will go to protect whistleblowers that expose cults and their practices. That of course extends to exjws who go after the Watchtower, as it stands in most cases they are not protected by the Law and Watchtower lawyers are free to go after them with the threat of legal repricautions....
more here...
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/against-senate-s-opposition-france-passes-new-anti-cult-law
the new study article 28 watchtower that has just been published on jw.org is about apostate lies and introduces new concepts in their effort to compat apostasy in the congregations.
so despite the loosening of their recent disfellowshipping rules their fight against apostates is still raging hard.
according to the foreword of this article, they will concentrate on :.
The new STUDY ARTICLE 28 Watchtower that has just been published on jw.org is about apostate lies and introduces new concepts in their effort to compat apostasy in the congregations. So despite the loosening of their recent disfellowshipping rules their fight against apostates is still raging hard. According to the foreword of this article, they will concentrate on :
Training ourselves to discern the difference between the truth we have learned from Jehovah and the falsehoods promoted by Satan and our opposers(=in other words apostates)
So under the theme "Do You Recognize the Truth?" we read in paragraph 3:
3.Read Ephesians 6:13, 14. Soon the Devil will use powerful propaganda to mislead entire nations into taking sides against Jehovah. (Rev. 16:13, 14) We can also expect Satan to intensify his efforts to mislead Jehovah’s people. (Rev. 12:9) Consequently, it is important that we train ourselves to see the difference between truth and falsehood and to be obedient to the truth. (Rom. 6:17; 1 Pet. 1:22) Our survival during the great tribulation will depend on it!
So the new idea is that combating apostate lies now is a training exercise for combating the intensified propaganda Satan will unlease in the time of the End. Later on we read in paragraph 7:
To strengthen our fear of Jehovah, we need to focus on pleasing him in every decision we make. (Ps. 16:8) As you read Bible accounts, ask yourself, ‘If I had been in that situation, what decision would I have made?’ For example, picture yourself listening as the ten Israelite chieftains gave their negative report. Would you have believed the report and given in to the fear of man, or would your love for Jehovah and your desire to please him have won out? An entire generation of Israelites failed to recognize the truth that Joshua and Caleb spoke. As a result, they lost the opportunity to enter the Promised Land.—Num. 14:10, 22, 23.
Let's analyse this ancient example in today's setup. The Israelites are like the rank and file Jehovah's Witnesses that are being deceived by false reports or apostate lies. What is more likely happening here is that ancient Israelites portray rank and file jws, the 10 spies are the Governing body brainwashing 9 million jws into believing that apostates like the ancient Cananites are these monsters that will do anything to destroy your faith. I think this analogy works better! What do you think?
looks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.
kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.
i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.
Thanks Sea Breeze
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Sea Breeze,scarily similar 😁
looks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.
kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.
i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.
I still can't find the newspaper article, I hope someone can come forward with it that would really help
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He should come back to Wilmslow and reintegrate himself with the local congregation. Everyone is getting reinstated now even the apostates, and with daddy's connections he will be back in no time. I'm giving you free ideas here Lloyd, I know you will never do a decent day work in your life you may as well move in your mum's big home for free, you big deviant narcissist 😅